Re: A question for Teresa....
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:24 pm
BH, remember the HIPAA laws.
For former members of the fire and brimstone Churches of Christ
http://www.ex-churchofchrist.com/SupportBoard/
http://www.ex-churchofchrist.com/SupportBoard/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1885
Yes I do know (I work in the medical field) but I was just trying to call it to BH's attention so he could delete it. We don't want to violate mnala's (or anyone's) trust or disclose their private information. In fact, I believe we should operate here as though we DO have a HIPAA-like law covering support forums. And, thankfully, teresa took care of it.agricola wrote:That only applies to medical offices/doctors/professionals! BH is safe.
Does it matter? A Baptist will say that he followed Jesus in baptism. Jesus was baptized with the baptism of John. He remained a Jew. If you don't have faith even with a CoC baptism you are not saved. The thief on the cross died after Jesus died yet was saved. Could he be baptized. He was spiked through the heel bone to the upright not the front of the foot. You can twiddle with this one for ever. Jesus decides whether you are saved or not. The CoC preaches that the water somehow saves you. Water represents blood in that sense. Baptists will tell you that the blood of Jesus saves you. There was alot of blood. Once you have been baptized and believe the point is moot. I believe that faith saves you. Faith without works is proof of nothing. That is in James. This is a tricky question. For me it is moot as I have bases covered. There is no way to change the CoC from within.Lerk wrote: At the time, I was hoping to change the church from within (yeah, right!). One thing that had happened was a conversation with a guy at work where, out of the blue, he asked me if I thought one was saved at the point of faith or at the point of baptism.
They were I used to have 3 phone lines in my house for modems. You had bulletin boards then. I learned to use a browser in 1996. It was Netscape. You had Yahoo and some banking services. Nothing like today. Sears killed itself when it elimitated its catalogue stores. It did not properly replace it with web pages. It did have some thing on line but nowhere near what it catalogue had. My Dad used to use it for toilet paper in a outside shanty as a boy. I have seen cut up newspaper in Germany in 1968. We may be back there soon. Better than corn cobs. Bears go in the woods without Charmin. When I lived in a rural area Sears was the best way to get stuff. It is now going the way of Montgomery Wards otherwise known as Monkey Wards. It died years ago along with the five and dime stores. Remember Sprouse Reitz or Grant's. Remember when 711's did not exist. Remember how big cell phones were in the 1980's. Most feel naked without a smart phone today. In the 1970's there were no cell phones. Remember pagers. My first cell phone was so bad that I actually went back to a pager. I used a slide rule for chemistry in the 1960's. There were no calculators hand held. There were business calculators. My dad taught a business class in high school. I used to think was a gas to divide by zero which has infinity as an answer. The machines were mechanical and would spin and spin. I later used one for some calculations in college as they could resolve things in more digits. I once took a calculus class where I used basic to do integration of area under the curve. This is the basis of formulas for areas of a circle or a rectangle or triangle that you learned in geometry or Trigonometry. A computer can take an hour and a very close approximayion. You can do it to the nearest thousanth of an inch.tarheel wrote:Are you sure? PC's were still in their infancy at that time. I am not sure modem's were commercially available for home use at that time.teresa wrote:Petros thinks it was 1990 or 1991.
Just an FYI. There is a vaccine for meningitis. I got it at a drugstore a while back, since the vaccine wasn't available when I was a kid.ena wrote:The board was open in 2005 when I had my head injury. I remember when mnala had meningitus. I lost a friend to that. I hope he is ok today. There are two forms viral and bacterial. They infect the lining of the brain.
Ephesians 2:8-10 says salvation comes by faith through grace, not of works. Baptism isn’t even mentioned. And the writer notes works will not get anyone to Heaven. If baptism is essential to salvation that is a glaring omission by the writer, who is assumed to be inspired.ena wrote:Does it matter? A Baptist will say that he followed Jesus in baptism. Jesus was baptized with the baptism of John. He remained a Jew. If you don't have faith even with a CoC baptism you are not saved. The thief on the cross died after Jesus died yet was saved. Could he be baptized. He was spiked through the heel bone to the upright not the front of the foot. You can twiddle with this one for ever. Jesus decides whether you are saved or not. The CoC preaches that the water somehow saves you. Water represents blood in that sense. Baptists will tell you that the blood of Jesus saves you. There was alot of blood. Once you have been baptized and believe the point is moot. I believe that faith saves you. Faith without works is proof of nothing. That is in James. This is a tricky question. For me it is moot as I have bases covered. There is no way to change the CoC from within.Lerk wrote: At the time, I was hoping to change the church from within (yeah, right!). One thing that had happened was a conversation with a guy at work where, out of the blue, he asked me if I thought one was saved at the point of faith or at the point of baptism.
It cannot anchor to God because it in general is afraid of judgement and of the wrath of God. It should be. That is because no human can be saved on their own merits without the covering grace of Jesus. It is Jesus that decides. There are two resurrections. One to reign with Christ and one for the Lake of Fire. The first resurrection comes at more than one time. This is described in Revelation 20. The whole chapter not verse by verse. Verse by verse is dangerous if you do not have the full context. Classic CoC mistake. There are other verses that support this but usually only one of the resurrections is talked about. Google two resurrections to find other verses.