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No point in resorting to the use of facts.Opie wrote:Islam is the religion of no alcohol, not Christianity. I enjoy a glass of wine with dinner several times a week and consider it a blessing from God.
My mom was the same way, agri. Once my dad brought a six pack of beer into the house and I have never seen my mother throw such a hissy fit!!agricola wrote:Wow - my mother was so solidly coc, she wouldn't even have cooking sherry in the house!
Actually, "new wine" is completely fermented. Depending upon conditions, it takes between 3 days and 3 weeks for wine to completely ferment. "New wine" is wine that it 20 days old, IOW it's finished fermenting.ena wrote:Jesus drank wine. Yeast can be seen with a microscope. It grows buds and multiplies that way. It grows on the skin of grapes. When you crush the grape you infect the juice. It starts fermenting immediately. This was not known until the 1800's. My church taught that Jesus only drank new wine. Even new wine would have some alcohol. New wine would have been unknown in the ancient world. The stories they told as facts were not. This is true of many ideas in the CoC. I have no interest in incorrect stuff. Following is a quote from an article on Louis Pasteur
"Following his fermentation experiments, Pasteur demonstrated that the skin of grapes was the natural source of yeasts, and that sterilized grapes and grape juice never fermented."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur
Ditto....Opie wrote:Islam is the religion of no alcohol, not Christianity. I enjoy a glass of wine with dinner several times a week and consider it a blessing from God.
Isn't alcohol suppose to dull the pain? And it could put you to sleep quicker too. Alcohol has lots of benefits if you think about it. 
Funny you should say that. I actually do have a drink (just one) on Sunday morning before church. Not kidding. It's the only time I drink in the morning, and it does help me to be relaxed and in a good mood for what otherwise I might find to be unbearable.Cootie Brown wrote:If you're a member of the c of C I think you would find it beneficial to be a little bit tipsy when you go to Sunday School and Services.